Epstein conspiracy theorists are having a field day!

in #epstein7 years ago

Conspiracy theorists are having a field day with the news of Epstein suicide. Of course, much of this is a predictable consequence of any suspicious-seeming event, in our highly polarised political environment. But some is the result of a strange contradiction in the mindset of a good many conservatives:

On the one hand, conservatives believe (for good reason!) that government is prone to a wide range of perverse incentives and inefficiencies. But they tend to forget about that whenever the conversation turns to police and/or prisons. If the latter seem to have committed error or misconduct, this type of conservative tends to think that it's either "fake news" (often spread by the left), or some sort of conspiracy.

In reality, prisons are an environment where almost every aspect of inmates' lives is controlled by a government bureaucracy with horrible incentives, and a long history of both malevolence and incompetence. Screw ups are all too common. Admittedly, federal prisons (like the one Epstein was held in) have a generally better reputation than many state prisons. But that's in part because they have a much lower percentage of prisoners incarcerated for violent crimes (most such crimes are purely within state jurisdiction). What happened with Epstein is the kind of thing that is all too likely to occur just thanks to the "normal" flaws of prison management.

The question on why Epstein was able to successfully attempt suicide whilst on suicide watch is a fair point of contention but reports are surfacing that he was NOT on suicide watch when he died. In-fact, this article clearly articulates the outrage from experts that he wasn't. Upon reading further, you come across this:

"Jack Donson, a former longtime federal Bureau of Prisons case manager, told NBC News that suicide watch in federal lockup "usually only lasts a few days to week" due to the amount of manpower the 24-hour surveillance entails.

"It requires staff to do overtime shifts," Donson said, and is "not considered a good use of resources."

In other words, when they put him on suicide watch after he was found with injuries on July 23, and then took him off it after a few days, they were just following standard procedure. And all the officials involved probably knew they could cover their asses by pointing that out, should anything bad happen.

The standard procedure may be flawed. But that's true of a great many aspects of the way prisons are run!

I recognise this will not still the conspiracy theorists. So I will end with this question. Which is more likely:

A. Epstein killed himself once he got off suicide watch, and again had plenty of opportunities to do so. In a slight variant of this, he pays off a guard to look the other way and/or bring him some rope or other supplies (Epstein was a billionaire, after all, and could easily afford it).

B. Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, or some other powerful person fearful of what Epstein might reveal hires an assassin. The assassin gets into the cell, kills Epstein, and makes it look like a suicide. He doctors the crime scene so expertly that later examination will not reveal any sign of a struggle. And he does all this (and gets out) without anyone in a maximum-security prison noticing that he did it.

I wouldn't say that B is totally impossible. But A (or some variant thereof) is VASTLY more plausible and likely. And I don't say that because I have any great love for Trump (everyone who follows my writings at all knows otherwise), Clinton (I liked some of his policies, but the man himself is awful), Prince Andrew, or Epstein's other high society friends.

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C. he's not dead.

do you know how to critically examine evidence?

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You should write a post explaining how they managed to pull this off.

he was in a federal maximum security prison. if someone with power says 'move him' he gets moved. then you set up the fake death - wheel a body double out for some photo ops, and the world's media does what the media always does, relate the information given to them bu official sources without any skepticism or proper questioning at all. mostly it's been, how trump was very good friends with him.

that's because any real journalists got fired or pushed out of all news organisations, only lackeys and presstitutes who are going to do what they're told, and editors who won't print any deviation anyway, are left.

you have very little imagination, or perhaps no sense of real history, if you don't think the rulers can pull off an easy stunt like this.

what you really should be asking is, how did they manage to get three buildings to collapse in their own footprint in new york using only 2 planes?

are you really that completely unaware that everything you have ever been told is a lie, in order to manipulate and control you?

of course, you might agree and want what you asked for, but as i said, it's not hard to imagine if you start with the basic obvious premise that very evil people run the world, and they don't think like you or i do.

I can see you have put a lot of thought into this. If someone very powerful wanted to fake his death, it would be possible. It just doesn't make much sense. Killing him makes more sense. Alive he is liability with all the exposure he has. What's even better than killing him is for him to kill himself. Epstein knows how bad the people he associates himself with. If he didn't kill himself he would suffer far more.

His death is also becoming a distraction. The focus needs to be on those he works for.

his (fake) death is a distraction, on purpose, from the teetering economy which may or may not last another 12-15 months.

i've put almost no thought into it - having seen them do the same thing over and over again. epstein is a ranking member - as long as they pretend that justice is done (dead) then all is well. i am 95% sure there is a continent somewhere that only the rulers know about it, a safe place to retire friends and useful actors when they have fulfilled their roles in public life.

yes, it would make more sense to kill him, if we knew what his rank was, but the way it was done, and the photos only showing a body double, tells me they just got him out - and partially to outrage people and cause a distracting controversy as you have well-surmised.

those he works for will not be brought to justice - you might get a token low-level (who they can also spring and move to the island if needs be) they will achieve their technocratic new world order, so if you do not have a plan to live fully outside of the digital cash system that is coming you need one.

don't be taking no mark of the beast friend. peace :-)

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I think he killed himself because he's afraid of what was going to happen to him. He previously got off with a ridiculously light sentence. This would have been highly unlikely this time round.

His death is quite convenient for his powerful friends. I hope the investigation continues after his death and does not just get swept under the carpet.

The best way to deceive the public is by telling the truth.