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RE: Why is Steemit Growth LINEAR, and not Exponential?

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His data is generally considered good, and I believe he's involved with collecting and handing it out. I've seen his posts about it before. From what I'e seen, it rings true. You can clearly see the damage HF20 did, for example.

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You can clearly see the damage HF20 did, for example.

If you consider cutting spam to virtually zero as damage, then yeah. 😎

Just considering post volume alone can be deceptive.

True, but I was here, I know the damage HF20 did to the site and users. And like I said, you can see it on the charts, too.

Personally, HF20 seemed a great step forward in the survival of the Network; only to be outdone by the potential rocksDB HF release.

This is from a programner's point of view and not from the perspective of the inconvenience to free user accounts on a platform still in beta.

Curious, were you here for it? (I didn't know you then.)
HF20 halved the useful activity on this site - our only resource other than the chain itself. There are still tens of thousands of users that can't post, because they haven't got enough RC, and have no way of notifying anyone. The site is currently broken and not approving new accounts. If it's a step forward, then it must not be complete at this time, because right now the site is all-but down.

Prior to HF20 after unintentionally affronting a Bitcoin Core Fanatic one evening, there were hundreds of bots that suddenly.started folliwing me after our last exchange in a comment thread. It was definitely a signal.

There were more bot users on this platform pre-HF20 than flesh and blood, in my opinion. Numbers are decieving. Besides the place is way cozier now. 😎

The site is currently broken and not approving new accounts.

Three STEEM will get you an account at:

steeminvite.com

You are welcome to one of my account tokens should you have someone you want brought on board. They give me another one every 4 days.

Things look to be working ok. If you know of accounts that need a delegation, please, let me know.

"If you know of accounts that need a delegation, please, let me know."

That's the problem - there's no way for me or anyone else to know who needs a delegation! Don't you see? I've been explaining this since the fork. Here it is again:

New users (or users with low SP for one reason or another) suddenly found themselves unable to post, comment, reply, or vote. In other words, they could observe the site, but not interact with it in any way. Certain types of spam were reduced, but over half the site's users got locked out - and remain locked out.

The users with just enough SP to "save up" for a comment somewhere, had a chance. Most of them have been found and rescued, thanks to people like yourself.

But those who can't indicate they need help remain unable to get help.

I've had several accounts on this site since I started here a year ago. They're free, and always have been. The problem isn't getting accounts, it's getting Steem (money). Without Steem (money) members can't interact with the blockchain in ANY way. I hope this is clear. They can't even upvote a post saying "upvote this if you need a delegation".

I can confirm this right now on any one of my low SP accounts. You can make a 0 SP account right now and see where you get with it.

My friends at @vantocan posted about it a couple months ago, and you responded by helping them, thank you. I'm surprised you don't remember the details of that post though. You seemed to realize how frustrating it is for smaller accounts like VantoCan and SativaZeee. But people with near-zero SP had it worse - complete lockout!

I was actually here before and during the fork, and paying attention to stats and community sentiment.

My own data clearly show how HF20 decimated my team's progress like nothing before or since.

I'm not knocking the pluses of HF20, but the site remains broken, and part of the problem is most people with plenty of SP still don't know it's broken.

My friends at @vantocan posted about it a couple months ago, and you responded by helping them, thank you. I'm surprised you don't remember the details of that post though.

That post is still fresh in my memory, yet although everyone aided at the time were seriously limited by RCs, they were not totally silenced. Any account created by Steemit, Inc. had a small delegation which allowed them to at least post for help.

Things did not seem as drastic as:

There are still tens of thousands of users that can't post, because they haven't got enough [RCs]

Such requests for help have become less frequent in the "introduceyourself" tag's feed. Many may have turned away from the site due to the frustration involved with limited SPs (and thus low RCs which was causing the limitations), but accounts created by Steemit, Inc. were not totally silenced.

It would be great to have some examples of accounts which had been totally silenced. It is my feeling that they generally were bot accounts created through Condenser Nodes with no SPs delegated to them. Spammers would put up such nodes in order to be able to create unlimited amounts of accounts; as prior to HF20 there was no cost associated with their creation.

My previous example of the angry Bitcoin Core Maniac demonstrated how one user had literally hundreds if not thousands of such accounts. Such accounts would not have enough SPs to ask for help. My feeling is that it was such crippled accounts which are affecting the stats and not genuine users; yet it is a hard one to prove either way.

Accounts have always been free here. I made 10 or so, lost half the passwords, gave accounts to friends, started projects with others, etc. Things continue to adjust, but right now I have the password to 7 accounts, 5 being my own, 2 being joint accounts. The blockchain differs from FB and other traditional social media in that accounts don't necessarily equate to individual humans, each with no other accounts. On the blockchain, some accounts are machines operated by machines, some are machines operated by humans, some are humans, and some are groups of humans. It's how things have been here since I started paying attention 18 months ago, and perhaps longer.

The main point: accounts are (and always have been) totally free. You don't seem to believe that, but that's true, so unless you can prove otherwise...? I've shown you my post nearly a year ago about how to make free accounts, and the method still works. It has nothing to do with spam, as you insinuate.

And again, I implore you: Start an account (or log into an existing one) with 0 SP, and see where you get with it. Hint: you will never interact with the blockchain or other users in ANY way. Even if you're a human, even if you're not up to no good, you're stuck - and you can't even alert anyone for help.

I keep saying this and it seems like you keep finding ways to not believe it. I guess I've done what I could.

There are still tens of thousands of users that can't post, because they haven't got enough

What is that fact based on?